I am appalled at the demeaner & attitudes of all the web sites that have popped up critizing the mother & father of this missing young lady. I am here to put them in their place! Are you "stuck on stupid"? Don't PEE on my leg and tell me it's raining.I might just have to Bitch slap you. LOL..Are we having fun yet? Jump right in and say what you mean and mean what you say.Don't let scum get away with thier crap expose them! MORE TO COME KEEP READING!~Don't worry,Be happy!
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many ladies love a man in uniform.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:30 AM
A uniform can "unlock" many doors.
BF
Posted by: Bigfish | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:42 AM
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"IS that what you were trying to expose?"
No..I am taking a serious look at the for-profit Websites/blogs that seem to have flooded the boards with ringers to build up interest and traffic (which also likely generated a big bump in donations). ClogDancingCleghordForChrist says she had 36 employees..that takes serious coin to run for six months. We can certainly speculate as to who had serious coin.
We recently had a member who was using about 40 ISPs out of one city. Whether the poster was HMI or part of the linked-blog bloc, who knows?
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Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:46 AM
Virginia McWane WAS
posted by: hahha me earlier.. aka anchor
pay no attention to the little man behind the curtain!!
I soooo screwed that name up!!
My most embarassed apologies for the 'mental typo'
Virginia Page.. yes!!
I can't believe my fingers just 'slipped' away from me on that..
my mind was clear.. fingers bad!!
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:48 AM
We recently had a member who was using about 40 ISPs out of one city. Whether the poster was HMI or part of the linked-blog bloc, who knows?
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Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:46 AM
I've been following all that! The wheels are turning and there IS "no stopping" the train now. The world is watching. Clickity-clack!
BF
Posted by: Bigfish | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:50 AM
A uniform can "unlock" many doors.
BF
Posted by: Bigfish | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:42 AM
Indeed...who is going to ask a man in uniform "what are you doing"?
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:50 AM
Not as I Recall. They had been given recent
Notices that their jobs were going to be ending as
the casino would be closing as a part of
the final renovation of the hotel. The two
places were connected to one another.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:34 AM
You are mistaken.
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:52 AM
www.forumer.com
For those who are :(
with everything we 'discuss' here
We don't 'wish' anything bad on anybody
Nor do we preach or misquote
And there's very little back-slapping
So don't worry, be :)
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:53 AM
Beth Twitty will be on Greta Monday night to share her journal.
Where did Greta go on "vacation" with her husband?
Same ski resort as Beth Twitty??
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:54 AM
hey sensible, how are you? How was your New year's? Do you think the case is effectively over in Aruba? in mountain brook?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:58 AM
I don't get Greta and I couldn't care less about Beth's journal. It is not important any more, except for people who like to shred cred. Beth should save something for the TV movie!
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:58 AM
Caey - hi you! :))
hey, it has been confirmed over and over again that the jones and johns duo were laid off from a hotel that had started renovations on May 1st.
They in 'technical' terms were, in fact, ex security guards... not by any wrong doing on their part.. terminology sucks,, I agree ...
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:58 AM
Beth Twitty will be on Greta Monday night to share her journal.
Where did Greta go on "vacation" with her husband?
Same ski resort as Beth Twitty??
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:54 AM
The "revised" version I'm sure. Re-writes take time...ask any screenwriter
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:00 AM
hey sensible, how are you? How was your New year's? Do you think the case is effectively over in Aruba? in mountain brook?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:58 AM
Happy New Year to you!! This case is dead in the water right now unless BigFish's train hits something or ALE and the FBI throw questions at MB.
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:00 AM
Fiery - so good to see you. I thought about you today too and hoped that you were having way too much fun to be able to join us, but that you would soon.
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:03 AM
hi coastal how are you? I got off a plane about two hours ago...i am waiting for my ears to unclog! I missed all of you guys but it was family time and i really loved that.
Has everyone just stopped looking for natalee?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:05 AM
I would also like to kindly point out...
The landfill... not aware of the storms you're speaking of...
they may have happened..
but, the dozers were shut down because of work permits not being in place..
weekend happened... (remember they took that friday before off)....
and when the permits were issued on monday afternoon... searchers arrived and the specific hole that was drilled out was in the process of being 'dozed in'...
wow.. i hope i'm not all effed up on my memory... i doubt it though...
I really feel like.... not answering..
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:07 AM
maybe four hours ago...my fingers aren't working with my brain yet...lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:08 AM
What is the landfill? Are we talking about the dump? Junior's dump?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:09 AM
hey anchor, happy new year! how are you? No, that's how I remember it all too.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:10 AM
"A report in the Birmingham News has tentatively identified the two suspects arrested and expected to be held over on suspicion of the murder and kidnapping of Natalee Holloway.
A security guard from the casino attached to the hotel identified one of the detainees as Mickey John of Granada, and the other only as Elvis from the nearby island of Bonaire.
Also, a Georgia resident known only as Lisa is said to have spoken to the FBI regarding an encounter with one suspect during a recent trip to Aruba. She claims to have seen him near her hotel on more than one occasion before being approached one day while jogging. The man allegedly first offered to sell her marajuana before propositioning her.
The men were known to police because they had a habit of going around to hotels trying to pick up women or bum cigarettes, said the officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity."
"The officer said several islanders told police the men frequently were seen hanging out at different hotels talking to female tourists. No complaints had been filed against them.
One of the suspects had a brush with the law, but it was not a violent or sexual offense, the officer said without elaborating."
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0605/234219.html
BF
Posted by: Bigfish | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:10 AM
Fiery, no nothing has stopped in the search for Natalee.
Some have said "stalled", "stopped", or "dead" now. I disagree with them.
It's Christmas Break, for Christmas sake!
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:12 AM
Hi Bigfish, Happy new year!
I seem to remember that one of those security guards was also at the concert?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:13 AM
coastal, have they been able to question the fellow travelers from MB since these kids are on christmas break? I'm sure these kids may have information about what went on in the days before her disappearance.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:15 AM
Van Der Sloot Not Being Re-Interrogated
According to seemingly reliable but as yet unconfirmed reports, Joran Van Der Sloot and, I assume the other suspects, are not subject to further interrogation in the disappearance of Natalee Holloway. According to reports the judge released the suspects with prejudice, which would preclude prosecutors form mandating their return for questioning. Details available through here.
http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005/12/re-interrogation-not-happening-robin.html
It seems additional questioning might only be conducted if the appearances were voluntary.
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Bigfish
Posted by: Bigfish | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:15 AM
hmmm...so any further information will have to come form MB right?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:17 AM
did anyone ever establish what the extradition process would be if any mt.brook students wanted for questioning in aruba?
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:20 AM
There are probably numerous people that donated to the Twitty slush fund who are now left wondering. Wondering why Beth feels it necessary to fly to Philadelphia, New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Ohio and Utah when Natalee disappeared in Aruba.
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Makes me glad I never donated.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:20 AM
MB kids questioning, fiery, no-one tells us anything! And I doubt we're going to hear a whole lot more news for a while, unless Jossy can make something up. I really want to know about the letter. I'm 50/50 on the letter. I can easily picture it as a hoax, but I sure wish it were true and contained good news about Natalee.
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:21 AM
fiery - you too!! happy happy to you!!
fishy - Me being anal ... (hahhaa.. don't say it..) am trying to pick that article apart with Scuba's posting a while back...
there was a man that was questioned either the first or second day that Natalee disappeared. His name NEVER hit the news....
ask her about it.... I know this is not an internet rumor...
Who was this 'first man to be interviewed'? Was he the fellow from Bonaire? Man oh Man I'm so freaking confused now!! So many so many things to look at all over again...
(double word is not accident).. :))
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:21 AM
hi walter...happy new year...we were worried earlier you were MIA....good to see you....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:22 AM
Re-Interrogation: Not Happening
Robin Holloway reports that Karin Janssen stated that the suspects could not be re-interrogated, because the judge released them with prejudice. The term "prejudice" in legal language means that the defendant cannot be brought in for questioning in the future (or charge with a similar charge in the future). Joran van der Sloot's attorney, Antonio Carlo has confirmed this situation in the case. Antonio mentioned that yesterday he received an invitation from the prosecutor for Joran to come in, voluntarily, for questioning. He stated that he has not acted on the letter. (Source)
Joran left Aruba on December 30th. (Not confirmed!)
Bigfish
Posted by: Bigfish | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:24 AM
did anyone ever establish what the extradition process would be if any mt.brook students wanted for questioning in aruba?
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:20 AM
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I did it in HTML for those w/out PDF
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http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:UYr-8W3oyGEJ:foia.state.gov/masterdocs/07fam/07m1610.pdf+international+extradition+process&hl=en
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:24 AM
hey walter, happy new year and you too danie.
Anchor, I remember Scuba saying something about another person being interviewed and yes, you are right, their name never became public but, I'm not sure if they were a witness or a suspect. Although they use witness in an odd way there cause the witnesses ended up being usspects. It is very confusing.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:24 AM
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:21 AM
Scuba said earlier to expect news in a months time.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:25 AM
so, does this mean that this is sort of "double jeopardy"...they can't be tried on the previous evidence? But, they never were tried. So, did the judges rule that the evidence was not enough to try them and then put that phrase in place so that it seems they were tried and freed and then the double jeopardy rule would apply and they couldn't be brought up on the same charges?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:27 AM
thanks for link walter...
hi fiery...happy new year to you....check out walter's link....does explain extradition....but absolutely agree...all very confusing....said earlier wish we had attorney on retainer that specialized in international law...specifically dutch/aruban....we had a couple...not around anymore...iquitos can be very informative....by the way, does anyone know how iquito's son is doing?
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:30 AM
welcome back fiery.going to fall into bed for much need sleep.night all
Posted by: hopingforthebest | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:30 AM
so, does this mean that this is sort of "double jeopardy"...they can't be tried on the previous evidence? But, they never were tried. So, did the judges rule that the evidence was not enough to try them and then put that phrase in place so that it seems they were tried and freed and then the double jeopardy rule would apply and they couldn't be brought up on the same charges?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:27 AM
Think they need NEW evidence to haul them back in.
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:33 AM
Journal June 1, 2005 Morning
6:00 AM The Early Show - Julie & Harry
6:30 AM Imus In the Morning - Don
7:00 AM Call back Mr. Mansur from Diario
7:30 AM The Today Show -Matt & Katie
8:00 AM American Morning - Bill & Soledad
8:30 AM FOX & Friends Julia
9:00 AM Good Morning America - Diane
9:30 AM Diario Interview - Jossy
10:00AM Regis & Kelly - Regis & Kelly
10:30AM Call back Mr. Rivera
11:00AM Plea on local radio Top 95.1
(*pick up Marcia's email)
11:30AM Pick up prayer cards from printers.
12:00AM Call back Miss Van Sustern.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:34 AM
they were tried and freed and then the double jeopardy rule would apply and they couldn't be brought up on the same charges?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:27 AM
would love to know answer to that question....we were initially told that the case remains open for two years...and suspects would remain suspects for that period....what wasn't explained was that only new evidence could bring them back for *mandatory questioning*.....at this point, don't remember...LOL.....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:35 AM
did anyone ever establish what the extradition process would be if any mt.brook students wanted for questioning in aruba?
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:20 AM
They can not be extradited for questioning. A person has to be basically
indicted (or equivalent) and going to trial or already convicted and are being returned for punishment.
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:35 AM
BTW-about thie drug business, this is something interesting of note.
Remember that Jones was found with a lot of the belongings of the MB kids, Cameras, Ipods and the like? Do you know they were never reported missing or stolen???
AND Jones was known to be a dealer on the beach. There is some speculation the kids traded them for drugs. Interesting, no?
Posted by: Scubajap | Sunday, January 01, 2006 at 04:15 PM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:37 AM
You are mistaken.
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:52 AM
It was never confirmed or not confirmed. Kinda left wide opened and undetermined.
Go back and read from the beginning. Its all here. See link below. Scroll all
the way to the bottom and read up.
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Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 12:58 AM
It was never confirmed or not confirmed. Kinda left wide opened and undetermined.
Go back and read from the beginning. Its all here. See link below. Scroll all
the way to the bottom and read up.
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http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/natalee_holloway/index.html
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:37 AM
They can not be extradited for questioning. A person has to be basically
indicted (or equivalent) and going to trial or already convicted and are being returned for punishment.
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:35 AM
thank you wayne! could you possibly clarify the suspect/witness confusion...ie according to dutch/aruban law, can suspects only be brought in for requestioning ONLY if new evidence is found? seems to be some discrepancy(sp?) between how the law differs in regards to witnesses and suspects...thanks....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:42 AM
hey wayne happy new year! Wouldn't it take quite a lot to extradict an american citizen to aruba? I mean an indictment has to have really solid evidence, true?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:45 AM
A person has to be basically
indicted (or equivalent) and going to trial... Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:35 AM
That may be coming up in the near future.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:45 AM
It was never confirmed or not confirmed. Kinda left wide opened and undetermined.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:37 AM
I read a press release from the Allegro either on this blog, CTVRefugees, or Unusual Suspects that stated what I wrote above. Take it or leave it...
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:46 AM
Pat, Happy New year! ROFLMAO....very clever!
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:47 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:45 AM
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:UYr-8W3oyGEJ:foia.state.gov/masterdocs/07fam/07m1610.pdf+international+extradition+process&hl=en
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Pages 10-11
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:48 AM
That may be coming up in the near future.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:45 AM
referencing scuba's earlier post? and/or additional info confirming that?
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:48 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:47 AM
Thanks. Happy New Year to you!
***********
I hope everyone's 2006 is off to a great start.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:51 AM
referencing scuba's earlier post? and/or additional info confirming that?
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:48 AM
Ummmm....well.....I ahhhhh....you see.....it's a "gut feeling" greta.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:51 AM
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:42 AM
I am not a lawyer. But from what I read, it appears the
evidence presented is not enough to got to trial, so they
cannot force them (K2J) to be requestioned.
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:53 AM
it's a "gut feeling" greta.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:51 AM
smart a**....LOL.....now answer the question sweetie.....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:55 AM
it appears the
evidence presented is not enough to got to trial, so they
cannot force them (K2J) to be requestioned.
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:53 AM
thanks wayne...
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:56 AM
Take it or leave it...
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:46 AM
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I prefer to leave it then...if you put it that way. I was not be sarcastic.
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No proof as far as I am concerned.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:57 AM
hey wayne happy new year! Wouldn't it take quite a lot to extradict an american citizen to aruba? I mean an indictment has to have really solid evidence, true?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:45 AM
I don't think it would take any more than to extradict someone to say
England. They would have to charge a person with a serious crime and then
ask for exradition. The person can fight the extradiction request in US courts.
That may require the other country to provide some level of evidence.
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:58 AM
Did anyone else notice while painfully sifting through those photo's of the Birmingham C of C, that there was a Nelson Bean (some Bank honcho)..I wonder if he is MacLean Bean's dad? He was Natalee's Midnight ball escort in 10th grade.
Ruffner Page reminded me of Robert Wagner in Austin Powers....yeah baby.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:59 AM
Ruffner Page reminded me of Robert Wagner in Austin Powers....yeah baby.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:59 AM
ROFL....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:01 AM
7 FAM 1616 EXTRADITION PROCESS: FOREIGN REQUESTS TO THE UNITED STATES (CT:CON-100; 02-07-2005) a. A foreign government’s request for the extradition of a fugitive located in the United States must be addressed to the Department of State. The
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U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual Volume 7 - Consular Affairs
request is generally made as a diplomatic note with accompanying documents, by the government's embassy in Washington, D.C., to the Department (L/LEI). If officials of the host country make the request directly to the post, post must notify the Department (L/LEI). b. When L/LEI receives the diplomatic note and documents requesting extradition, it determines that there is a treaty in force and reviews the request to see if it meets the treaty’s requirements. L/LEI then forwards the request to the Department of Justice (OIA) and notes either that it meets treaty requirements or that there are inconsistencies or deficiencies in the request. L/LEI and OIA jointly decide whether to pursue or reject an extradition request. c. If OIA determines that the information presented is sufficient to justify apprehension of the fugitive and initiation of the extradition, it sends the note and documents to the office of the U.S. Attorney in the district where the fugitive is located. d. Once the fugitive is apprehended, an extradition judge conducts a hearing to determine if: (1) There is a treaty in force; (2) The person arrested is in fact the person sought by the requesting state; (3) The crime of which the fugitive is accused is an extraditable crime under the treaty; (4) The request sets out probable cause to believe that the fugitive committed the charged crime; and (5) There are no treaty grounds requiring denial of extradition. An Assistant U.S. Attorney represents the requesting state; the fugitive is represented by a private attorney or court-appointed counsel. e. If the fugitive is found extraditable, the District Court certifies the record of the case to the Department of State for a final decision whether to order extradition. If, upon reviewing the relevant materials, the Secretary or Deputy Secretary agrees to order extradition, he or she will sign the surrender warrant, and the fugitive will be surrendered to the escort agents of the requesting state. f. In cases of urgency, the foreign authorities may ask the United States to effect a provisional arrest of the fugitive. If OIA agrees to proceed on the provisional arrest, it forwards the information to the U.S. Attorney in the district where the fugitive is located. The U.S. Attorney applies to the court for an arrest warrant. If the fugitive is provisionally arrested, the requesting state must submit its formal extradition request within the deadline provided in the treaty. The processes described above then would apply.
7 FAM 1600 Page 11 of 16
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:05 AM
Happy New Year to all. I haven't posted much since before Granny Toad
stopped posting. I purposely stepped away from the blog. I read occasionally, but am only covering about 10% of what is posted.
I wish this case would have a positive resolution.
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:05 AM
Goodnight all. Have a great week.
SMILE
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:07 AM
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:57 AM
Guess you'll have to take it --
Today Occidental Hotels & Resorts' Allegro Aruba Resort issued a statement through Business Wire claiming that contrary to several press reports, murder and kidnapping suspects Nick John, 30, and Abraham Jones, 28, are not employees.
MIAMI--(BUSINESS WIRE)--June 7, 2005--The following is a statement by Allegro Aruba Resort: Reports that the two men arrested in the search for Natalee Holloway in Aruba are employees of the Allegro Aruba Resort are erroneous and false.
In fact, the resort has been closed for complete renovation since May 1, 2005, and is scheduled to reopen later this year. It is possible that these two individuals in question worked for the security company hired by the construction firm to provide security for the site. The two men were not employees of the hotel and statements attributing that are incorrect.
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:07 AM
happy new year wayne...nice to meet to...and thanks again....
nite casey...
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:11 AM
thanks Walter, what fascinating information. In the end, however, it is conde rice's call, isn't it?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:12 AM
Scuba said earlier to expect news in a months time.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 01:25 AM
What? Are you kidding me? How can I be expected to wait a whole freakin' month after what I've been through? Every single day on every cablenews channel on the hour every hour. Months go by, still more lies, every freakin day on 3 freakin' channels with a panel of 4 not-very-expert experts, usually while I'm trying to eat my dinner! And you are trying to tell me I have to wait a month for more details? What the heck do you expect me to do in the meantime??? Oh yeah baby, it's personal. People who lie to me at dinner are the most heinous of characters and I shall enjoy to continue watching as BAM, they all fall down! Buffalo train hit 'em.
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:13 AM
I am wondering if this entire "show" is being run for a particular reason. What do you guys think?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:14 AM
I mean, the cable news "lawyers" can't all be as stupid as they are appearing
can they?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:15 AM
hi danie
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:16 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:14 AM
$Money$
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:16 AM
In the end, however, it is conde rice's call, isn't it?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:12 AM
My take is that request to State dept. is a matter of protocol...then it goes to DOJ, then to a judge who will make final determination.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:17 AM
While I was reading Walter's interesting link I began to think about all the proviso's involved and that ultimately Conde Rice can just say, "no I won't exradict any american citizen" and then that is they. She can also say that and add, but I will arrange for the Attorney General to have them tried on US soil. Gee, maybe there was a method to the madness.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:17 AM
I sort of got the feeling, Walter, that, ultimately the Secretary of State had the power to stop it all, sort of like a State Department Exceuctive Order. Now, whether or not she uses it is another matter but I think the power is there. Probably more as a protection for the american citizen but nonetheless, there for the taking. I could be wrong though and I will re read it tomorrow when a better head is on my shoulders...lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:20 AM
I am wondering if this entire "show" is being run for a particular reason. What do you guys think?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:14 AM
$Money$
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:16 AM
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TWITTY CHARITY CASE thread...those interested in the funds will like this:
http://ceetveerefugees.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=1164&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:20 AM
Guess you'll have to take it --
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:07 AM
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No, I do not have to take it. and...will not...SORRY.
LOL
None of the stories confirm anything about these
two. Unless you have the ARUBAN LE investigation
on the matter you , me or no one for that matter
really knows the story about them. But..Apparently
they had no involvement in the case. They are free.
I believe hardly any of what I read or hear.
Only thinkg we all know for sure is that NATALEE IS MISSING
AND SHE WAS LAST SEEN WITH THE 3 AMIGOES.
Night...
Big smile.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:22 AM
Night...
Big smile.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:22 AM
Is this the final good night and smile...or can we expect more?
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:24 AM
Apparently
they had no involvement in the case. They are free.
I believe hardly any of what I read or hear.
Only thinkg we all know for sure is that NATALEE IS MISSING
AND SHE WAS LAST SEEN WITH THE 3 AMIGOES.
Night...
Big smile.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:22 AM
......AND THE 3 AMIGOES..and I quote:
"Apparently
they had no involvement in the case. They are free."
Good night. :>)
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:25 AM
fiery...interesting point...nothing would surprise me now...JMO...but think if ALE has in its possession that degree of evidence...well, i guess i would be surprised.....then again, as you said, they could be playing it close to the vest and of course that is required under dutch/aruban law....lol....apologies for talking in circles....think i'll reread tomorrow too....lol
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:26 AM
So sad...people get bonafide links, statements, quotes, etc. and yet still refuse to believe. Is it just delusion...or is it delusional paranonia?
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:27 AM
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:22 AM
You really are a case... What you just wrote had nothng to do with what you first stated and I replied. So now official press releases by the entity in question aren't good enough. Go back to your other name
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:28 AM
Walter..what do you want.
FROWN...
I asked for you to be nice.
Like Kind....gentle. you no.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:28 AM
hi danie
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:16 AM
wayne...just saw this....i hope you are who i think you are....if you are....good to see you! missed your input....if you're not....still nice to meet you.....lol....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:29 AM
Fiery - Why are you worried about how to stop an extradition? If a crime was committed against Natalee in Aruba by an American, then that person would be better off getting charged by Aruba. They don't have the death penalty down there and no-one is sentenced to jail time for a period longer than their expected natural life span. IMO, they'd get a better deal in Aruba, except that KIA has no airconditioning. :(
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:30 AM
I hope someone isn't taking too much Zoloft.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:30 AM
Walter..what do you want.
FROWN...
I asked for you to be nice.
Like Kind....gentle. you no.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:28 AM
Don't read into it...I would have posted that to anyone that said good night on 4 different posts. I must say though that your narrow-mindedness is quite frustrating, but of course that is the intent.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:31 AM
Casey, I remember that article because the company couldn't wait to distance itself from the two suspects. They made damned sure that everyone knew that the suspects were not, at that time, in their employ. Why are you refusing to believe this. What are you thinking or trying to point out to us that we are obviously missing?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:32 AM
Casey - you may be the only person here who has a problem with Walter, does that say anything to you?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:32 AM
sensible1...
mind your mouth and do not start with me,
and this is a free country. Now get off it.OK
Do you know what stop it means ?
Just because you post some article does not make it so.
None of the articles on that matter match. They are
all different.
It still remains an open question. Ask ARUBAN LE to release
their notes on the matter. They know the real
truth or the 2 guys would not be free right now.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:33 AM
I hope someone isn't taking too much Zoloft.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:30 AM
I keep getting intrusive ads for something called Cymbalta...lotsa pics of smiling women. Hmmmmm....Casey/Sprite is always smiling ;0)
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:33 AM
I'm sorry costal, I'm thinking ahead, trying to figure out how an american could wiggle out of extradition and being charged with a crime. I tend to think that they would have the best and priciest attorneys and that the attorneys would fight like the dickens for them not to be extradicted. I guess I wasn't clear.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:34 AM
Casey - you may be the only person here who has a problem with Walter, does that say anything to you?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:32 AM
LOL...thanks coastal...I should forward some of my hate mail to you.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:35 AM
coastal...JMO...i think at this point all of us would be ecstatic if the prosecutor and ALE had enough evidence to indict/convict SOMEONE....regardless of whether they are from mt.brook or aruba....just hope they have enough definitive evidence to try the case and answer a lot of questions and speculation....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:35 AM
Okay...you can "all" get off it.
Got it. Get over yourselves !
Have another beer. The more you drink
the worse you get. Damn.
Enough already.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:36 AM
We`ve also talked to the mother of Mickey John, the second suspect. And she also has been talking to us a little about his character.
GRACE: Well, Karl Penhaul, I understand the girlfriend of one of the suspects says she was with him the night before -- they went to a concert, I believe -- and that he reported to work the next morning. But just last night, his then-attorney said that he was between assignments, that he didn`t have a place to report to.
PENHAUL: What we actually have been told by the attorney, and what my recollection of last night`s conversation is, Nancy, is that the assignment as security guard at the Allegro Hotel was due to finish later in the week, either Tuesday or Wednesday, because the Allegro is up for refurbishment and that the security company there is a contract company, not permanently assigned to that hotel. So they would have either then been moved out of the security company altogether or that contract would then have been assigned somewhere else.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:37 AM
The more you drink
the worse you get. Damn.
Enough already.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:36 AM
Yeah, it's so bad that all the distilleries and distributors are begging Dan to put up banner ads on this part of his site.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:38 AM
Someone posted that the "main suspect" is already back at school. It has also been posted that essentially, from their end, barring horrific evidence that is found and brought forward, that they are free. So, you would have to assume that suspect's are being sought elsewhere, possibly in the United States. However, unless they can prove that the kid is not alive, they probably won't be able to do much. We are, in limbo now and probably will be in limbo for some time. A poster on hyscience said they expect to see a lawsuit soon and they expect that the monies held in the "fund" will go to the lawsuit. Since they seemed definitive and they ususally know what is going on, maybe that is what Scuba was alluding to.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:39 AM
I've never seen you post before, casey, but weren't you asking people to be nice and then you turn out to be the one who is totally not nice. Just an observation but wow, nasty...oh wait...are you bitsey?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:40 AM
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:33 AM
So you find an article released by Allegro saying those two were employed by Allegro on May 30, 2005. You're up to your old tricks. That New Year's resolution didn't last very long.
Posted by: sensible1 | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:41 AM
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:29 AM
I have only posted here under one name. Thank you, if I am
who you think.
I will try and post more, but there has been little new information.
I just picked up the January VF, but have not read the article yet.
Sorry it took so long to reply, typepad kicked me out.
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:41 AM
LOL...thanks coastal...I should forward some of my hate mail to you.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:35 AM
That sounds like a lovely treat, will it help me to become more twisted and bitter, a religious heretic?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:43 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:40 AM
Casey is Sprite...now you see?
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:45 AM
yes I do...and sprite always sounded like bitsey to me...maybe they are three.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:46 AM
LOL...thanks coastal...I should forward some of my hate mail to you.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:35 AM
That sounds like a lovely treat, will it help me to become more twisted and bitter, a religious heretic?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:43 AM
Well, I was kidding about the hate mail...but I could help you on the twisted heretic part.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:47 AM
This is interesting..this is from June 8th where one of the suspects reportedly said he and Natalee went to the beach and had "fun". Different beach, same story?
____________
Still with us, CNN correspondent Karl Penhaul. Very quickly to Karl Penhaul, Karl, did either of the three young men who took Natalee from the bar that night ever tell police that they had slept with her, had sex with her?
PENHAUL: We haven`t heard that directly because the evidence here and the witness statements here are highly confidential. The defense attorneys have seen some of those witness statements, I understand. But I do understand that, in the file, there are not three witness statements. I understand there are possibly only two witness statements.
We do hear from police sources, however, that the three men, at least one of them, says that they did go to the beach with Natalee and had some fun. The interpretation of that, I`m not aware of, Nancy.
GRACE: Now, is this coming from the defense attorneys?
PENHAUL: That "fun" bit of information was from a police source, that the three men or one of the three men, at least, had said that they`d gone to the beach with Natalee after leaving Carlos and Charlie`s and "had some fun." They didn`t specify what "had some fun" meant, but the beach where the two had gone or where the group had gone have been searched. That, I believe, is called Arashi Beach.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:47 AM
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:41 AM
if you've always posted under the name wayne only....i'm mistaken...but very pleased to have your input....i'm a bit of a PIA when it comes to legal questions (understatement!)....JMO...believe most do not realize the importance of understanding and respecting dutch/aruban law....it will in the end be the crucial determining factor....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:50 AM
Well, I was kidding about the hate mail...but I could help you on the twisted heretic part.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:47 AM
Whatsa matter? You got no bitters?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:52 AM
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:47 AM
....Or Karl Penhaul assumed Arashi beach and ALE didn't correct it. I can see all the reporters running over there while the beach by the marriott was being searched. :>) I think they fact check by listening to another station.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:52 AM
you know Pat, a lot of information is in the articles about the two suspect's who were originally arrested. Their attorneys made statements as to their lack of guilt in any of this. Their attorneys were privy to everything that the prosecutor had up until that point and what they say is fascinating. I also find it interesting that one of the suspect's attorneys said he did not try to get his client released, rather he waited until the prosecutor released him. There were a few other statements.
I noticed that about the beaches too. could htere have been a party on the other beach with the kids who had left the bars and the three suspects and possibly the chaperones too. That would help make the girl swimming and called in story more plausible as then the kids would be partying on the beach. Wonder when they switched beaches?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:53 AM
yes I do...and sprite always sounded like bitsey to me...maybe they are three.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:46 AM
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"IS that what you were trying to expose?"
No..I am taking a serious look at the for-profit Websites/blogs that seem to have flooded the boards with ringers to build up interest and traffic (which also likely generated a big bump in donations). ClogDancingCleghordForChrist says she had 36 employees..that takes serious coin to run for six months. We can certainly speculate as to who had serious coin.
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Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:53 AM
Whatsa matter? You got no bitters?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:52 AM
Will Angostura do?
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:55 AM
hmmm....wonder what the city was...hmmm....wonder who the poster was?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:56 AM
Fiery - If you want to see examples of cronyism etc just wait til everything ends up in MB. Those connections we've found go back generations. There's an elder Twitty, looks like Jug, who is a lawyer before the Supreme Court, although I don't know if that's important or not. Mr. Bachus is an interesting person who prolly knows a lot of the people involved. And Beth is prolly about to be shunned, if it hasn't happened already. Yikes. I think someone put me in a bad mood. I should go to bed. Glad you are back, missed you.
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:57 AM
don't they have professional programs that change your Ip address frequently so that you cannot be traced? Are these programs illegal for private use?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:57 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL.
Love
Love is always patient and kind: it is never jealous.
Love is never boastfull or conceited; it is never rude or selfish.
Love does not take offense, and it is never resentful.
Love takes no pleasure in other people's sins, but delights in the truth.
Love is always ready to excuse, to trust, to hope, and to endure whatever comes.
Love does not come to an end.
Ref. 1st Corinthians 13
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Here's still hoping for a kinder gentler NH forum. :O)
Do not know what I said was wrong. GEEEEZ.
And Walter...When did I ever say I hated you.
The word hate is evil as far as I am concerned.
I prefer to use the word dislike if you do not like someone.
Much nicer choice of words.
Sensible..Is there any rule here that says you "have"
to agree with someone about something ??
pathery..what you said was uncalled for.
coastal, fiery...did I say anything to you ?
Why did you attack me ? Now you attack Bitsey too.
She will see when ever she checks in again. And you Walter...
wanta know where I live ? It sure is nice to be so loved. LOL
I can see now. This will continue to be the same ole
same ole for 2006. There is no hope for some of you.
And that is sad !.
ENOUGH SAID.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:58 AM
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:57 AM
There was also an Alabamee twitty that was speaker of the house back in the sixties.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:59 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:53 AM
I think it's part of this interview. I left the Daniel Horowitz comment in...OUCH!
______________
GRACE: So he`s in a cell. He can`t leave. Police are holding him. But you say he`s not in jail?
PIETERSZ: Well, the thing is that the judge of instructions, when we appeared in front of him, he decided that a detention of my client was legal. And while he did that, that means that he will have, for now, stay there by the police station.
Of course, there are legal measures that we can take as defense. But we have to see if that will be practical, yes or no. Since the maximum time he will have to stay there are ten days, for the prosecutor to prolong that or to ask for prolongation, we will have to appear in front of the judge of instructions, and he will have to gave his (UNINTELLIGIBLE) for that.
(CROSSTALK)
GRACE: OK, let me quickly go to defense attorney Daniel Horowitz standing by. Daniel Horowitz, this is basically bass-ackwards from the way that it works in America. Because you don`t arrest somebody and put them in a cell of an administration building by the jail unless you`ve got a case against them. You don`t get arrested while the state, while the prosecutor, tries to put together a case.
DANIEL HOROWITZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Exactly, Nancy. And there`s a problem with this, also. It focuses on these two men so much, and it doesn`t give them the freedom to be out and prove their innocence or gather evidence on their own behalf.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:00 AM
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:50 AM
I don't want to post and run, but it is late.
The issue I see is not the law, but what happened, or
did not happen in the first few days of the investigation.
I have always been concerned that it damaged the case beyond
repair. The only hope I can see is new information can be
obtained from MB interviews or new evidence is found.
Good night
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:01 AM
BooHoo Casey, quit your moaning, when did I attack you?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:01 AM
missed you too...it's interesting that power, money and influence can go back generations in some states. In others it doesn't matter at all. It's more what have you done for me lately. But Alabama, Misisisippi and some of the other states seem to have a hierarchy in place that is fascinating and probably even decides the elections. The more we know, the less we know...this whole thing is mind boggling and we still don't know if that letter was bogus or not. We still have no proof one way or another if she is dead or alive. This is one hell of a mystery and it is getting cloudier and not clearer and that is what is so frigtening. Things should be clearer and they are just more muck and mire and more questions.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:01 AM
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:58 AM
"Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be [Daniel 8:19]
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:02 AM
Casey - you may be the only person here who has a problem with Walter, does that say anything to you?
Posted by: coastal | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:32 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What did you mean by this. I have no problem with Walter.
Try asking WALTER ...BIG SMILE!
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:03 AM
Casey, I agreed with what you said. We should try to have a kinder gentler blog, however, I called you on it when you violated your own plea. No, you did not address me directly but you posted and I read and I felt that you should know you were violating your own rules. For the record, I do not attack anyone. I am seeking the truth. I do, however, object to those who appear to have an agenda and do not want to find the truth. They simply way lay the rest of us and prevent us from thinking productively. Really Casey "let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:05 AM
I have always been concerned that it damaged the case beyond
repair. The only hope I can see is new information can be
obtained from MB interviews or new evidence is found.
Good night
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:01 AM
well said....good nite wayne...and thanks again!
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:05 AM
don't they have professional programs that change your Ip address frequently so that you cannot be traced? Are these programs illegal for private use?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:57 AM
I don't think so. Plus there are websites that will re-route your packets
and hide your IP address.
Just google IP address hiding
For example:
http://www.v7soft.net/
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:08 AM
Cassey I don't think I attacked you. Some posters prefer to follow the "none are so blind as he who will not see rule"...I didn't attack sprite either. Bitsey has always gotten personal with people. when you got so nasty with Walter, I assumed maybe you were bitsey. Bitsey thinks nothing of personal attacks for her own agends and generally I ignore her now.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:10 AM
It has never been totally confirmed
who, or where or what the 2 guys that
were suposely in Uniforms that night worked.
Not confirmed. Many different
stories about them and no two are alike.
Is there something wrong with that ?
Do tell.
Why are ya'll so touchy feely about
everything. ?
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:10 AM
A friend of mine who grew up in China was saying that the Chinese posters have to use certain programs in order to post and not get caught by the state. Sh said they have these programs in US companies for some reason. She was specific, I was on my second glass of champagne. It was fascinating to listen to her talk abou the political immplications of free speech and how being able to trace an IP could result in death or detention. It was frightening also.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:12 AM
Walter...Did I attack you ??
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:13 AM
Casey are you saying that you believe the original story about the kid being dropped at the holiday inn and the security guards walking up to her and helping her?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:13 AM
The more you drink
the worse you get. Damn.
Enough already.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:36 AM
Am I wrong...did you somehow mean this as a compliment?
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:15 AM
Many different
stories about them and no two are alike.
Is there something wrong with that ?
Do tell.
Why are ya'll so touchy feely about
everything. ?
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:10 AM
Are you talking about Beth's interviews?
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:15 AM
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:15 AM
Woa, you are hot tonight! lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:16 AM
Walter...Did I attack you ??
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:13 AM
Okay...you can "all" get off it.
Got it. Get over yourselves !
Have another beer. The more you drink
the worse you get. Damn.
Enough already.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:36 AM
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:20 AM
Casey: you need to take that stick out of your butt and loosen up a little bit. Paul's getting married to Carla. Beth's going all over with Joey Mammana Twitty. The cousins are coming off of a good football season. Being bitter and angry won't solve it any faster. The family's moving along....you can too.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:20 AM
Why are ya'll so touchy feely about
everything. ?
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:10 AM
Mostly because a lovely young woman remains missing and her fate is unknown so everyone here is trying desperately to keep all the "facts" that we know correct and not muddied up by speculation.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:21 AM
Fiery..try posted the whole thing.
Is Walters names mentioned ?
Do tell.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Comprehension
________________
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:15 AM
It has never been totally confirmed
who, or where or what the 2 guys that
were suposely in Uniforms that night worked.
Not confirmed. Many different
stories about them and no two are alike.
Is there something wrong with that ?
Do tell.
~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Try posting the whole thing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Walter...Did that post have your name on it.
Did it say Walter ???
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Comprehension
lol..
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:22 AM
Honestly Pat I hope the FBi stakes out that wedding like they used to surveil the mob in Rudy's day as a prosecutor. This way, if anyone interesting shows up for the wedding they will know.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:23 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:21 AM
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GEE,
I would have never thought that.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I give up.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:24 AM
Walter...Did that post have your name on it.
Did it say Walter ???
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`
Comprehension
lol..
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:22 AM
Oh come here you big ball of fun....sit over here with me and let's talk twitty...I mean turkey...oh well same thing ;)
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:25 AM
Casey...."comprehension"...you insulted all of us.
Also, you seem to be sepousing the theory that the suspects were telling the truth when they said they dropped the young woman off at the hotel and she was greeted by two security guards. So you must be wondering who these two guards were. That is a good question.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:26 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:23 AM
I'm picturing the Godfather wedding. LOL I could see Greta standing next to a 5'4" woman with short dark hair and a screaming baby saying "you look familiar, have you gone on the record?"
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:27 AM
LOL I could see Greta standing next to a 5'4" woman with short dark hair and a screaming baby saying "you look familiar, have you gone on the record?"
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:27 AM
yeah, and then jug shoves the woman.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:28 AM
ROFLMAO...Pat, that is exactly what I was thinking ...you made the point quite well...lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:28 AM
Casey: you need to take that stick out of your butt
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:20 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
When I do I will FEDEX IT ON TO YOU TO USE. LOL.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
WALTER ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET ???
Are you really trying to piss me off?
Well...it want work. Sorry. Carry on.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:29 AM
Casey, I wish I had your confidence. It must be so difficult being as intelligent as you are dealing with all of us idiots.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:30 AM
yeah, and then jug shoves the woman.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:28 AM
...he "schtumbled"
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:30 AM
comprehension..fiery..
Go back and read. Pleez.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:31 AM
...he "schtumbled"
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:30 AM
You forgot the "hiccup"
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:32 AM
Actually, Pat's point is well taken. Is anyone bohtering to search for natalee these days. if everyone has moved on. Possible divorce in the offing. Child "buried in my heart" as early as second week of June. I mean really, if everyone else has moved on and has stopped searching maybe we should all worry about a new topic. After all, we here on the internet seem to be the only one solely worried about natalee.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:32 AM
Red Herrings.
LOL
~~~~~~~~~~~
AND...Walter I promised I would not.
Seems like If I Try to be nice
you don't want that either.
Whuz up with that ? Why me ? Why ?
As Nancy Kerrigan would say.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:34 AM
When I do I will FEDEX IT ON TO YOU TO USE. LOL.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:29 AM
If it helps..send it. We got trash cans.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:34 AM
Don't bring Nancy into this now Casey, she is a very nice girl and she doesn't say much.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:35 AM
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:32 AM
Oh No....we're not stopping before we get to Mt. Brook.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:36 AM
Casesy, the operative word here is "try"...when you have to "try" it means that it is something difficult for you "comprehension"....ROFLMAO...you are way too serious and way to argumentative for this hour of the morning.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:36 AM
I may never be accepted in OT after this....
I truly cherish each and every memeber on that board...
Each person there is truly unique and special and so very much
appreciated by me...
sprite/casey - I am making this public...
OT won't come here and read all the time... you know why?
because of the shit that is started...
the shit stopped for a while... and some of the regular angry folks were
easily dealt with after explaining a true intent of discussion...
has anybody looked back to the latest postings from casey?
Casey - you're overboard. We would probably be swell friends in a lighter
discussion. I thoroughly enjoyed you,,, because of your spunk and ability to post your beliefs... Where did that go?
I honestly feel you are hijacking this forum, the same as some others that
have attempted to do the same.
I am sorry to so hurtful....
I will stop now...I have posted an announcement of this post already on OT..
my thought is not completely conveyed in the above post...
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:37 AM
i know Pat, I was just being facetious....lol...but I have a feeling that MB is locked up tighter than fort knox was when it had the gold...lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:38 AM
Walter I promised I would not.
Seems like If I Try to be nice
you don't want that either.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:34 AM
"Shmoke and a pancake? Pipe and a waffle? Bong and a blintz?
There is no puleashing you Mishter Powers."
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:39 AM
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:34 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thank you. I appreciate that ..As my trash company does not pick up wood.
LOL
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:35 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And you know what. You want find them any nicer than I .
And you know what else. Thats a fact !
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:40 AM
hey anchor, no matter what we all adore you...I think you have had a rough couple of days. It seems that nothing in your neck of the woods gets done unless you do it. That is a lot of pressure. I mean snow mobilers...do you have to help save everyone, including us? lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:40 AM
Casey, I'm not trying to fight with you...I'm trying to reason with you. I'm sure you are a lovely person. Sometimes you just, like the rest of us, go a little overboard, and it seems that you spoke out of both sides of your mouth tonight. Under ordinary circumsances we probably wouldn't have called you on it but tonight I guess we just did.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:42 AM
Anchor...Do what ?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
okay then well you can take it from here. Its yours.
You are in command now.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sorry that I have invaded "your" space.
Geez.Did not know this was your forum.
But...I will turn it over to you now.
Goodnight.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:44 AM
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:39 AM
ROFLMAO....Oh my, didn't know Austin Powers had joined the blog...oh baby!!!
lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:44 AM
Casey, enough already, you know damn well anchor didn't mean that in her post. Maybe you should re read what she said. She was consturctively criicizing. Whe did not try to take control of anything. ooh...it must be the witching hour or something. Everyone is on edge ad infinitum...lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:46 AM
called you on it but tonight I guess we just did.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:42 AM
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Btw ...You called me on nothing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I said nothing to be called on.
Give me a break. Geeez.
Goodnight. You have given me an excedrin headache now.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:47 AM
Walter: that was priceless. LOL
**********
I'm leaving with a smile. Goodnight everyone.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:47 AM
Everyone is on edge ad infinitum...lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:46 AM
Lucky Charms and cola will have a tendency to do that.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:48 AM
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:48 AM
ROFLMAO...
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:48 AM
Goodnight Casey and Pat...I think I will lurk a litte longer...lol
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:52 AM
Goodnight.
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:47 AM
We've been hearing that for the last 4 hours.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:53 AM
Walter: that was priceless. LOL
**********
I'm leaving with a smile. Goodnight everyone.
Posted by: pathenry | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:47 AM
You provided the inspiration with that earlier post about Jar
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:54 AM
you know walter, very early on Dan was onto this crapola that is going on to protect the MB kids from being questioned. I remember when things started not to add up for him and he must have felt very annoyed cause he began to see quite clearly. He probably figured all of this out before any of us and yet...we still don't really know anything. I wonder if dan has found out anything about the letter.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 04:01 AM
nite all....yeah, i'm still here....hate to see anyone upset...candya** that i am....can't cite a source, but just my philosophy....*laugh or die*....see you all tomorrow....sleep well....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 04:01 AM
nite danie, I agree I feel bad that casey got upset too and anchor is all upset...it was one of those nights...people are very serious about all this...it is difficult to step back from it after all these months.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 04:03 AM
well said fiery....it is an emotional topic....after all these months! good nite and sweet dreams....sigh.....
Posted by: danie | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 04:07 AM
Hey everyone Go to the OT..
and have fun in your filthy playground.
You want have to worry about me anymore.
Bye.
You got rid of Granny (if there every really was one). Might have been one more of ANCHORS many personalities. Got rid of me too.
You bad mouthing Beth haters are nothing but scum anyway. See ya !!
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 04:46 AM
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Hey everyone Go to the OT..
and have fun in your filthy playground.
You want have to worry about me anymore.
Bye.
You got rid of Granny (if there every really was one). Might have been one more of ANCHORS many personalities. Got rid of me too.
You bad mouthing Beth haters are nothing but scum anyway. See ya !!
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 04:46 AM
Gee it is very interesting that the "family" is using Robin Holloway as the spokesperson. She is the only one left with any credibility. They could have used Linda Allison. hmmm...both of these women have strong ties to dave holloway....isn't that interesting.
Posted by: fiery | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 04:55 AM
FORTY ISP's.....ONE POSTER....ONE CITY
Posted by: Walter Sobchak | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 02:53 AM
Very few cities have 40 ISPs. Is he sure it wasn't 40
IPs, which wouldn't be unusual, particularly if they were on dial-up.
Posted by: Honey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:09 AM
please see your doctor casey/sprite/!
when your medication is adjusted.. check back in to rwv
I wish you the best of luck.
p.s. to casey/sprite/!.... i have opinions... so do you... they are all accepted...
present it as such...
stop your hijacking of this forum with your inance and spontaneous bullshit..
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:20 AM
GO TO HELL ANCHOR.! YOU AND YOUR KIND ARE TRAILER TRASH.
YOU KNOW AND SO DO I AND MANY OTHERS THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE
BALLS TO SAY SO BUT GUESS WHAT I WILL! F**K you!
COME ON TO HOTLANTA AND I GIVE YOU AN OLD FASHION
ASS WHIPPING THAT YOU HAVE EARNED. !
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:27 AM
I don't want to post and run, but it is late.
The issue I see is not the law, but what happened, or did not happen in the first few days of the investigation.
I have always been concerned that it damaged the case beyond repair. The only hope I can see is new information can be obtained from MB interviews or new evidence is found.
Good night
Posted by: Wayne | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:01 AM
Yep. The police not being notified for nearly 24 hours was very bad. The first 48 are critical, you know. Fortunately, Rep. Bachus sent in 13 FBI agents on the 4th of June. Hopefully, it made up for the time lost to the Twitty's secretiveness and irresponsible vigilantism.
Posted by: Honey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:28 AM
WALTER ARE YOU HAVING FUN YET ???
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 03:29 AM
I'm having fun. There's little more entertaining than watching a grown woman start frothing like a rabid dog, over words on a screen.
Posted by: Honey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:37 AM
casey -
please admit yourself into a psychiatric ward...
there is something not right about your medication.
I truly wish you the best..
please come back to us as you used to be.
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:41 AM
Go to hell ANCHOR.
Check your self back in you complete fool.
AND YOU NEED TO GO WITH HER HONEY/LEMON
Scew you!
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:45 AM
casey -
please admit yourself into a psychiatric ward...
there is something not right about your medication.
I truly wish you the best..
please come back to us as you used to be.
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:41 AM
Don't you remember her as !? She was like this, all the time.
Posted by: Honey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:48 AM
back to Natalee...
I may have missed a post in regards to the legality of an American
citizen beng suspected...
How is that handled?
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:48 AM
I will take slander from no one. I am no ones
pushover. You dish it out I can give it back.
You are F**ing with the wrong person. You got that.
I have all this copied and will take legal
action. Your attack onme tonight
was for nothing.
I will track you down and my lawyer will
be serving you up. LOL
Posted by: Casey | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:50 AM
Don't you remember her as !? She was like this, all the time.
Posted by: Honey
yes I do.. but, you know me..:) always hoping for the best..
Posted by: Anchor | Monday, January 02, 2006 at 05:51 AM
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